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Old 01-27-2004, 05:37 PM
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In addition, may I add, the person was from a top Ivy League school.
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But if I have not been asked to regurgitate that number since the SAT, how am I being inconsistent? I've never had to think about it since my college application. Where's the inconsistency?
Whatever. You guys were both being illogical, and uninformed about my position.

I never debated on the merit of GEICO's requirement. But, if you've taught a prep course for SAT, you should know dang well your score. If not, your credibility is in line here.
Actually, I understand what you're saying. I just do not understand how my credibiliy is questioned when I state that: No, I do not remember my score exactly, it was around a XXX; However, I do teach a math SAT prep course, but I was never asked to provide a SAT score; Therefore, I haven't had to ever think about it. -- I am being completly honest in everything that I say; what is not credible about honesty?
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Old 01-27-2004, 05:47 PM
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Fine. You may honestly not remember. Did you know about their requirement beforehand? Could you have been able to find out the scores you had if so? Employers are weary of any dishonesty, so you don't want to raise any red flags whatsoever. Once a red flag is raised, they scrutinize that and their radars go up. That's what I'm trying to say. It's far better to be honest, than to fudge and cover over things.
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No, I do not remember my score exactly, it was around a XXX; ...
You only got a 3 digit combined SAT score?

The companies are probably just using SAT score as a proxy of IQ. In my experience, SAT scores are more highly correlated with high IQs than grades, at least at the top end.

Would you object if they made you take an IQ test before you were hired?
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Fine. You may honestly not remember. Did you know about their requirement beforehand? Could you have been able to find out the scores you had if so? Employers are weary of any dishonesty, so you don't want to raise any red flags whatsoever. Once a red flag is raised, they scrutinize that and their radars go up. That's what I'm trying to say. It's far better to be honest, than to fudge and cover over things.
No I didn't know that they would require a SAT score, it was not listed with the job posting as required information. I received an e-mail after I sent my resume asking for my score. I then, honestly said that "Honestly, I do not exactly remember my score, it was around xxx"
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No, I do not remember my score exactly, it was around a XXX; ...
You only got a 3 digit combined SAT score?

The companies are probably just using SAT score as a proxy of IQ. In my experience, SAT scores are more highly correlated with high IQs than grades, at least at the top end.

Would you object if they made you take an IQ test before you were hired?
No, I actually just sat for an IQ test. I wouldn't mind it at all.

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I was just curious of the question, since I'd never been asked that b4.


But actually, I just like to debate.

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I got 800 M 790 V. So I took it again and got 800 M 800 V. You have no way of verifying, so I can say what I want.

Seriously, they're probably just using it as one criterion for entry-level people to see how they might do on the exams. It's just one of a zillion things they're using, why is there such a huge debate here on this.
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I got 800 M 790 V. So I took it again and got 800 M 800 V. You have no way of verifying, so I can say what I want.

Seriously, they're probably just using it as one criterion for entry-level people to see how they might do on the exams. It's just one of a zillion things they're using, why is there such a huge debate here on this.
Good question. Because somebody got personal.
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Because somebody got personal.
You mean when you questioned TWH's credibility?
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